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    State sponsored immigration or general skilled migrant route?

    I am in the process of giviing my IELTS test and in the meanwhile decided to get my educational and experience assessed by VETASSESS. However I was recently advised to try for state sponsored immigration before loding my EOI under the GSM program.

    I just wanted to know if someone else has opted for the state sponsored immigration route (I think its 485) and if its worthwile to first try for that and keep GSM as the last resort.

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    State Sponsored Immigration is subclass 190 and Regional State Sponsored State Migration is 489
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    So immiseeker do you agree that one should try for state sponsored and/or regional sponsored migration first and keep the GSM route as the last resort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    So immiseeker do you agree that one should try for state sponsored and/or regional sponsored migration first and keep the GSM route as the last resort?
    State Sponsored is Permanent Residence so GSM would be out of question while Regional Sponsored is Provisional PR and You can apply for PR after fulfilling the PR requirements as stated under Your 489 Visa conditions.
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    Immiseeker based on your understanding and experience, would it be advisable for someone to go for a 190/489 Visa instead of the 189 one because all three would ultimately would lead to citizenship right so wouldn't it be advisable to go for the less stringent visa category?

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    Immiseeker based on your understanding and experience, would it be advisable for someone to go for a 190/489 Visa instead of the 189 one because all three would ultimately would lead to citizenship right so wouldn't it be advisable to go for the less stringent visa category?
    You go for 189 if you are scoring 60 points or plus. but it will take like 8-12 months of processing and also you will wait for Application invitation depending upon availability of quota in your occupation after EOI.

    I will prefer to go for 190 (If qualified) because in case of STATE SPONSORSHIP under State migration PLAN then visa invitation is confirmed after EOI and it will take like 3-8 months for the visa grant.

    489 would be the very last option if you fail to qualify for 189 or 190. because its not PR its Provisional visa and you will not receive MEDICARE and Family assistance in this subclass. more over it will require you to stay in regional area for 2 years which includes 1 year of mandatory job in that regional area and there is no excuse and leniency in that condition.
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    I'm not exactly sure about how my points will add up because of a number of reasons. Firstly my IELTS is in April and Insha Allah I should score above the 6 band, while a score of 8 would be wonderful, a conservative estimate would be in the 6-7 range meaning prob 10 points courtesy of IELTS. I think since I'm 36 I should bag another 20 points. The education and experience are the most tricky bits. While I have over 9 years experience in my chosen occupation of internal auditor, VETASSESS only considers post qualification experience and I qualified as an Certified Internal Auditor in June 2012. I also completed my ACCA qualification last year with th exams in June 2012, result in August 2012 and award of membership status in October 2012. So firstly I don't think I have a year's post qualification experience until June 2013 (optimistic scenario) or October 2013 (if they consider my ACCA as my primary qualification although I think since I'm applying as an internal auditor, the former qualification is more relevant). Since you have to specify which visa class you're applying for on the VETASSESS form, I wanted to be sure I was going for the right visa category before giving them a bucketload of cash for the assessment fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    I'm not exactly sure about how my points will add up because of a number of reasons. Firstly my IELTS is in April and Insha Allah I should score above the 6 band, while a score of 8 would be wonderful, a conservative estimate would be in the 6-7 range meaning prob 10 points courtesy of IELTS. I think since I'm 36 I should bag another 20 points. The education and experience are the most tricky bits. While I have over 9 years experience in my chosen occupation of internal auditor, VETASSESS only considers post qualification experience and I qualified as an Certified Internal Auditor in June 2012. I also completed my ACCA qualification last year with th exams in June 2012, result in August 2012 and award of membership status in October 2012. So firstly I don't think I have a year's post qualification experience until June 2013 (optimistic scenario) or October 2013 (if they consider my ACCA as my primary qualification although I think since I'm applying as an internal auditor, the former qualification is more relevant). Since you have to specify which visa class you're applying for on the VETASSESS form, I wanted to be sure I was going for the right visa category before giving them a bucketload of cash for the assessment fees.
    Brother 6 EACH means 0 points in points test. you need 7 EACH to receive 10 points so please keep this in mind.
    regarding your EXP and education I have no idea really
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    Yes, thats why the IELTS test assumes even more significance as I'm uncertain how many points the education and experience will bag me. But it is this uncertainty which is why I wanted to get some info about which visa class would be the most suitable in my case. But since I have a few months until the June 2013 timeline, I suppose I should explore the 190 option.

    Thanks once again for your prompt responses. Btw did u use an immigration consultant and would you recommend any either way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    Yes, thats why the IELTS test assumes even more significance as I'm uncertain how many points the education and experience will bag me. But it is this uncertainty which is why I wanted to get some info about which visa class would be the most suitable in my case. But since I have a few months until the June 2013 timeline, I suppose I should explore the 190 option.

    Thanks once again for your prompt responses. Btw did u use an immigration consultant and would you recommend any either way?
    My recommendation is Zarnab International but you are free to explore others

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    Administrative Law is a mechanism for accountability that is applied to government decision making about individual cases, not policy making in general. When dealing with governmental agencies, either for a decision, an appeal or a review of a previous decision regarding a particular case that you or your company may be involved in, you will need the services of skilled administrative attorneys.

    Thanks.

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    Administrative Law is a mechanism for accountability that is applied to government decision making about individual cases, not policy making in general. When dealing with governmental agencies, either for a decision, an appeal or a review of a previous decision regarding a particular case that you or your company may be involved in, you will need the services of skilled administrative attorneys.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aspiresquare View Post
    Administrative Law is a mechanism for accountability that is applied to government decision making about individual cases, not policy making in general. When dealing with governmental agencies, either for a decision, an appeal or a review of a previous decision regarding a particular case that you or your company may be involved in, you will need the services of skilled administrative attorneys.

    Thanks.
    Please Mention your MARN ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    Yes, thats why the IELTS test assumes even more significance as I'm uncertain how many points the education and experience will bag me. But it is this uncertainty which is why I wanted to get some info about which visa class would be the most suitable in my case. But since I have a few months until the June 2013 timeline, I suppose I should explore the 190 option.

    Thanks once again for your prompt responses. Btw did u use an immigration consultant and would you recommend any either way?
    Your CIA will not help....ACCA is also not going to help as it is not a degree...
    For Int Auditor u require Bachelors degree (at Aus bachelor degree level) with a highly relevant major (for eg. Finance)
    Dont let an agent dupe you into thinking ACCA and CIA will be enough...
    Do u have a bachelor's degree? How many years of study? What did u major in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    Yes, thats why the IELTS test assumes even more significance as I'm uncertain how many points the education and experience will bag me. But it is this uncertainty which is why I wanted to get some info about which visa class would be the most suitable in my case. But since I have a few months until the June 2013 timeline, I suppose I should explore the 190 option.

    Thanks once again for your prompt responses. Btw did u use an immigration consultant and would you recommend any either way?
    Your CIA will not help....ACCA is also not going to help as it is not a degree...
    For Int Auditor u require Bachelors degree (at Aus bachelor degree level) with a highly relevant major (for eg. Finance)
    Dont let an agent dupe you into thinking ACCA and CIA will be enough...
    Do u have a bachelor's degree? How many years of study? What did u major in?

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