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    Fast are you from the internal audit profession? I don't know about VETASSESS (which does the assessment for internal auditors) but the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Australia and the other Aus accountancy bodies recognise the ACCA as a sufficient skill to qualify for migration purposes as an accountant.

    There is a bachelors degree that the ACCA and a UK University (Oxford Brookes University) offer you subject to fulfillment of certain conditions. For people from the ACCA route its basically completeing so and so ACCA papers, an ethics module and some other criteria. You then have to submit a Research project to OBU and if you pass, you get a bachelors degree from OBU in Applied Accounting which is a recognised degree in the UK from a good univeristy.I don't know how the years of study would be calculated in such a case for people like me who came through the ACCA route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    Fast are you from the internal audit profession? I don't know about VETASSESS (which does the assessment for internal auditors) but the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Australia and the other Aus accountancy bodies recognise the ACCA as a sufficient skill to qualify for migration purposes as an accountant.

    There is a bachelors degree that the ACCA and a UK University (Oxford Brookes University) offer you subject to fulfillment of certain conditions. For people from the ACCA route its basically completeing so and so ACCA papers, an ethics module and some other criteria. You then have to submit a Research project to OBU and if you pass, you get a bachelors degree from OBU in Applied Accounting which is a recognised degree in the UK from a good univeristy.I don't know how the years of study would be calculated in such a case for people like me who came through the ACCA route.
    Please refer to the VETASSESS website. Since u r applying as an internal auditor u will have to go to VETASSESS. I am not aware of the bachelors degree offered by ACCA and UK univ. But i guess since the area of study will be in a highly relevant field, i guess the only criteria left to be fulfilled will be whether it is considered at the same level as an Australian bachelors degree (or higher). But again ur years of experience will only be counted after completion of this qualification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    Fast are you from the internal audit profession? I don't know about VETASSESS (which does the assessment for internal auditors) but the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Australia and the other Aus accountancy bodies recognise the ACCA as a sufficient skill to qualify for migration purposes as an accountant.

    There is a bachelors degree that the ACCA and a UK University (Oxford Brookes University) offer you subject to fulfillment of certain conditions. For people from the ACCA route its basically completeing so and so ACCA papers, an ethics module and some other criteria. You then have to submit a Research project to OBU and if you pass, you get a bachelors degree from OBU in Applied Accounting which is a recognised degree in the UK from a good univeristy.I don't know how the years of study would be calculated in such a case for people like me who came through the ACCA route.
    Please refer to the VETASSESS website. Since u r applying as an internal auditor u will have to go to VETASSESS. I am not aware of the bachelors degree offered by ACCA and UK univ. But i guess since the area of study will be in a highly relevant field, i guess the only criteria left to be fulfilled will be whether it is considered at the same level as an Australian bachelors degree (or higher). But again ur years of experience will only be counted after completion of this qualification.

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    'Group A Occupations require a qualification which is at least at the level of an Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF) Bachelor degree, in a field highly relevant to the nominated occupation. In addition to this, the applicant must have at least one year of post-qualification employment in a field which is highly relevant and at an appropriate skill level to your nominated occupation completed in the five years before the date of application for a Skills Assessment.'

    Employment needs to be undertaken after completion of the highly relevant qualification. Pre-qualification employment cannot be considered for Group A.'

    I think the above stipulates that the qualification should be at least equivalent to 'an Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF) Bachelor degree' . It does not exclude professional qualifications like ACCA,CA etc. nor does it stipulate that only academic qualifications will be considered. I agree with you about the requirement of post qualification experience of at least one year. So I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that professional qualifications don't count. Its possible VETASSESS might not consider them equivalent to a Bachelors degree but that is not apparent from the above criteria on the VETASSESS website. That would be pretty strange IMO because all over the world internal auditors usually comprise of professional accountants and the only specialist internal audit qualification in the world is CIA.

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    I never said professional qualifications dont count.....I was talking specifically about your case. And the following is from DIAC website.

    Internal Auditor - 221214

    Please refer to the link under the heading "Skill". "This occupation has a level of skill commensurate with a bachelor degree or higher qualification."

    So ACCA, which is not a degree, alone will not suffice....for your case since u dont have a bachelor degree now
    But do get an opinion from others.....specifically from agents.....but do bear in mind that their feedback will be biased since they want to source your case so u will have to verify the information provided by them


    Oh btw....."all over the world internal auditors usually comprise of professional accountants"......where did u get that notion from?

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    Thanks for the link. Although TBH it doesn't tell us anything we already don't know. From the looks of it whether ACCA and/or CIA will or won't suffice is rather unclear. The emphasis is IMO not so much on the bachelor's degree but that the level of skill is commensurate with a bachelor's degree or a higher qualification. The ambiguity/flexibility increases with the provision that the five years relevant experience may be a substitute for the formal qualification which again is not very specific.

    I think the best person to clarify this issue aside from the migration agents would be someone who's qualified for migration recently under this occupation. So if there's anyone over here who's done so I'd love to hear about it.

    Fast, I've been in internal audit for almost a decade now and prior to that was with an audit firm for 4 years and most of the internal auditors I've met are people with an accountancy/finance background. Its a similar situation in the Middle East as well. Where exactly in the world are u at present and have u worked/are working in internal audit presently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    Thanks for the link. Although TBH it doesn't tell us anything we already don't know. From the looks of it whether ACCA and/or CIA will or won't suffice is rather unclear. The emphasis is IMO not so much on the bachelor's degree but that the level of skill is commensurate with a bachelor's degree or a higher qualification. The ambiguity/flexibility increases with the provision that the five years relevant experience may be a substitute for the formal qualification which again is not very specific.

    I think the best person to clarify this issue aside from the migration agents would be someone who's qualified for migration recently under this occupation. So if there's anyone over here who's done so I'd love to hear about it.

    Fast, I've been in internal audit for almost a decade now and prior to that was with an audit firm for 4 years and most of the internal auditors I've met are people with an accountancy/finance background. Its a similar situation in the Middle East as well. Where exactly in the world are u at present and have u worked/are working in internal audit presently?
    "Professional accountant" is different than "people with an accountancy/finance background". I agree with u now, most of them do have accounts/finance background and some of them that i met were also professional accountants. Where in ME are u? I might be able to help u out.
    Myself internal auditor in the middle east for the past 7 years

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    I'm not in the ME. I'm based in Pakistan but I do have a lot of friends in the ME and the UK who are in internal audit and happen to be professional accountants. Perhaps it varies from place to place but its just my experience that the rigorous audit training period coupled with the tough exams gives professional accountants an edge over accountancy/finance degree holders who are more focused on academic matters. But again it depends upon the individual and this is just my experience.

    Fast, have you tried out for Aus immigration as yet? If yes, maybe you can share a few tips with the rest of us.

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    I'm not in the ME. I'm based in Pakistan but I do have a lot of friends in the ME and the UK who are in internal audit and happen to be professional accountants. Perhaps it varies from place to place but its just my experience that the rigorous audit training period coupled with the tough exams gives professional accountants an edge over accountancy/finance degree holders who are more focused on academic matters. But again it depends upon the individual and this is just my experience.

    Fast, have you tried out for Aus immigration as yet? If yes, maybe you can share a few tips with the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
    I'm not in the ME. I'm based in Pakistan but I do have a lot of friends in the ME and the UK who are in internal audit and happen to be professional accountants. Perhaps it varies from place to place but its just my experience that the rigorous audit training period coupled with the tough exams gives professional accountants an edge over accountancy/finance degree holders who are more focused on academic matters. But again it depends upon the individual and this is just my experience.

    Fast, have you tried out for Aus immigration as yet? If yes, maybe you can share a few tips with the rest of us.
    I aint no expert.....but i will chip in my two cents wherever i can
    Good luck to you retro

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    immiseeker can you send me ur mobile no if possible i would like to discuss some thing with you
    what about AINIT counsultancy in karachi ?

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